enforcement order with parent alienation advice

[Rachel997]

Good that you got the Cafcass recommendation ordered. What happens next? ie next hearing? Is it going to a final hearing now? If so it might not be worth appealing. But if you have magistrates for a final hearing and the outcome isn't as good as you want, then you could appeal and get a more senior Judge.

So it’s the 12 week CPPP programme next with cafcass to try and unpick why the children don’t want to see their dad and if things are not able to move forward then the cafcass worker has said she will consider requesting a guardian and / or expert psychological assessments. So next hearing is booked for December and is a directions hearing. No final hearing booked yet.
We are still waiting to see if the court have the transcript. Hoping to find out tomorrow as then we will send that over to cafcass.
I think that we were a bit stunned how she was allowed to behave in court. She was shouting liar at my husband and interrupted him constantly and nothing was said. I think we are going with this cppp course and just seeing what next.

 

[Ash]

So is he getting to see the kids at all? I would definitely try and get a transcript of that hearing.

 

[Rachel997]

No contact at all and both children have gone from wanting contact to saying they don’t want to see him. Cafcass have said their wishes are not to be included as their emotional robustness has been eroded.

 

[Peanut 21]

No contact at all and both children have gone from wanting contact to saying they don’t want to see him. Cafcass have said their wishes are not to be included as their emotional robustness has been eroded.

The part about wishes and feelings not being included is good.
This was what ruined things for my partner. They took the childrens wishes and feelings at face value and now we haven't seen his daughter in over 2 years and barely see his son now.
My fingers are crossed for you and your partner.

 

[Hobnob]

In my case the Cafcass officer who was involved for the duration of my court proceedings (due to a family assistance order) eventually realised the mother and her family were alienating my kids. She never put it in writing or said it directly to me however in reports she would say things such as "The mother is incapable of promoting contact with the father" and "The mother and her family talk negatively about the father in front of the children".

My eldest daughter who was 10 when this started eventually started to have contact with me after much coaxing and patience from me. The officer met with me and my two daughters to see how contact was, she wrote a glowing report. Two months after this meeting there was an incident whilst I was picking up my daughter's, my ex went crazy at me and only my youngest came with me. The officer got involved and even went as far as to contact the mother later that evening to ask if she could take my eldest to see me (I was unaware at the time) mother refused.

Shortly after this my daughter blocked me on WhatsApp. The officer went to see my daughter in school. In the report she said my daughter was like a different child, distressed and withdrawn. She asked my daughter to write down her feelings as she was non verbal, my daughter simply wrote "I never want to see him again".

Cafcass referred my daughter to Action 4 Children. After 6 weeks the report was sent to me. In a nutshell it said my daughter was perfectly happy as long as she had no contact with me and if she didn't have to talk about me.

And that was that, it was ordered for indirect contact based on my daughter's age and her wishes and feelings. At no point did anyone question why there was such a huge u turn. Only a few months before I had messages from my daughter asking if I could pick her up earlier as she was too excited.

Unfortunately the system is too overwhelmed and underfunded to actually get children the proper help and support they need. The easy and default option is to go with the child's wishes and feelings even if it's apparent they are not true.

 

[Ash]

No contact at all and both children have gone from wanting contact to saying they don’t want to see him. Cafcass have said their wishes are not to be included as their emotional robustness has been eroded.

That's really good their wishes aren't going to be included. Seems Cafcass can see what's what. I had similar. They decided not to speak to my son (evidence he'd been coached when speaking to a social worker). Ex was furious.