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The so called experts. An update

Cafcass just use flow charts.
I honestly believe in the bulk of cases that as long as the kids are being fed, clothed and sent to school by the mother, they're not bothered about the dads being in the kids lives.

This is painfully true.

The juxtaposition between the Mother 'doing her best' and Father being pulled up on all sorts.
 
A bit of an update on the situation.

So as predicted the ex has made it difficult to see my partners son since the CAO was dissolved.

We've seen him 8 times since April.

There's been some weekends we're due to see him and she'll say "Son isn't well/he wants to stay with me/he has plans".

On one occasion she even admitted she lied about him being ill as they went away for the weekend.

Things escalated further over the summer and she threatened to call the police when my partner turned up to see the kids as he couldn't get hold of them
She then did call the police.
They came round for a chat a few weeks later. It was an amiable policeman who said he had to speak to the kids but wouldn't go further as it was a civil matter. He also supported my partner going round the exs house if he felt he had to do a welfare check.

Fast forward a few weeks. Haven't seen son in almost 4 weeks. The ex either ignores my partners text or replies in rages. She says it's too late for dad and daughter to sort their relationship and he's not welcome at the house as he's invading their 'safe spacw'. She just says the kids have their phones. But they never (daughter) or rarely (son) reply.

Now we've received news from a friend (daughter goes to school with son and they're best friends) that son has a bruised face from his sister lashing out, he fainted at school and is struggling with his eyesight.

Where on earth do we go with this second had info? When similar has happened in the past and my partner spoke to the schools no-one seemed to give a blind bit of notice.

The children are clearly suffering in that house but social services/cafcass/psychologist all deemed mother wonderful.

The woman is not right in the head.
 
A bit of an update on the situation.

So as predicted the ex has made it difficult to see my partners son since the CAO was dissolved.

We've seen him 8 times since April.

There's been some weekends we're due to see him and she'll say "Son isn't well/he wants to stay with me/he has plans".

On one occasion she even admitted she lied about him being ill as they went away for the weekend.

Things escalated further over the summer and she threatened to call the police when my partner turned up to see the kids as he couldn't get hold of them
She then did call the police.
They came round for a chat a few weeks later. It was an amiable policeman who said he had to speak to the kids but wouldn't go further as it was a civil matter. He also supported my partner going round the exs house if he felt he had to do a welfare check.

Fast forward a few weeks. Haven't seen son in almost 4 weeks. The ex either ignores my partners text or replies in rages. She says it's too late for dad and daughter to sort their relationship and he's not welcome at the house as he's invading their 'safe spacw'. She just says the kids have their phones. But they never (daughter) or rarely (son) reply.

Now we've received news from a friend (daughter goes to school with son and they're best friends) that son has a bruised face from his sister lashing out, he fainted at school and is struggling with his eyesight.

Where on earth do we go with this second had info? When similar has happened in the past and my partner spoke to the schools no-one seemed to give a blind bit of notice.

The children are clearly suffering in that house but social services/cafcass/psychologist all deemed mother wonderful.

The woman is not right in the head.
Social services. Make a direct referral to your local authority, they usually have a form on their website through which you can do this.
 
A bit of an update on the situation.

So as predicted the ex has made it difficult to see my partners son since the CAO was dissolved.

We've seen him 8 times since April.

There's been some weekends we're due to see him and she'll say "Son isn't well/he wants to stay with me/he has plans".

On one occasion she even admitted she lied about him being ill as they went away for the weekend.

Things escalated further over the summer and she threatened to call the police when my partner turned up to see the kids as he couldn't get hold of them
She then did call the police.
They came round for a chat a few weeks later. It was an amiable policeman who said he had to speak to the kids but wouldn't go further as it was a civil matter. He also supported my partner going round the exs house if he felt he had to do a welfare check.

Fast forward a few weeks. Haven't seen son in almost 4 weeks. The ex either ignores my partners text or replies in rages. She says it's too late for dad and daughter to sort their relationship and he's not welcome at the house as he's invading their 'safe spacw'. She just says the kids have their phones. But they never (daughter) or rarely (son) reply.

Now we've received news from a friend (daughter goes to school with son and they're best friends) that son has a bruised face from his sister lashing out, he fainted at school and is struggling with his eyesight.

Where on earth do we go with this second had info? When similar has happened in the past and my partner spoke to the schools no-one seemed to give a blind bit of notice.

The children are clearly suffering in that house but social services/cafcass/psychologist all deemed mother wonderful.

The woman is not right in the head.
I know court Is so stressful but would he be better off going back to court? As its clear parental alienation
 
I think my question was rhetorical to be honest.
The trouble is, the PA is clear to who?
A psychological report came back saying the mother is wonderful.
Social services don't care.
Court basically say listen to childrens wishes and feelings.
 
I think my question was rhetorical to be honest.
The trouble is, the PA is clear to who?
A psychological report came back saying the mother is wonderful.
Social services don't care.
Court basically say listen to childrens wishes and feelings.
Personally I think it's very clear how the kids don't want to go see their dad or even reply to his messages.. crazy how professionals cannot see this. Does this ever end really
 
Sadly I think when it comes to social services, cafcass etc they have thresholds. So if the resident parent is getting the kids to school, the house is clean and tidy and it looks like the alienator is caring for the kids, there's nothing they can do.
 
Sadly I think when it comes to social services, cafcass etc they have thresholds. So if the resident parent is getting the kids to school, the house is clean and tidy and it looks like the alienator is caring for the kids, there's nothing they can do.

You could maybe ask for a guardian to be appointed so that the kids have a voice?
 
Been there done that I'm afraid.
The first post on my thread tells the whole sorry mess.
We're at the point now of going to a support group and using advice from Karen Woodall group sessions.
I'd recommend to anyone in a similar boat to try a local support group. I can provide the info for this. It's a new charity called Parental Alienation Awareness. They have groups in most counties. They're do a lot with speaking to schools, doctors and psychologists to try and make changes in policy.
 
Been there done that I'm afraid.
The first post on my thread tells the whole sorry mess.
We're at the point now of going to a support group and using advice from Karen Woodall group sessions.
I'd recommend to anyone in a similar boat to try a local support group. I can provide the info for this. It's a new charity called Parental Alienation Awareness. They have groups in most counties. They're do a lot with speaking to schools, doctors and psychologists to try and make changes in policy.
Hi Peanut 21, you commented on my post about my final hearing and reading through yours hear it does sound similar, very similar in what I have also experienced in how my ex wife and her new husband have acted to cut my son off.
The group you are referring to do you have details you could share as I am considering appealing especially as the Cafcass officer commented on seeing alienating behaviour from my ex and never actioned on it.

I am really, really sorry to know your partner is going through all this however. It is ludicrous that fathers have to go through these processes.
 
The charity Parental Alienation Awareness can't help with legal stuff but they're a support group. So you can vent and share similar situations with others who will understand what you're going through.





There's no quick fix to this but reading the blogs on the attached or joining webinars of people in the same boat may make you feel less alone and despairing.
 
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