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I have a 5 month old baby and he's in my care full time I'm on a child in need plan because of baby's mother and she needs supervised visits to be able to see her son currently going through court proceedings for him to live with me anyway I'm writing this because I'm getting fed up with my ex who will only see baby in a pub close to her house I've suggested places to go ie childrens play centres I've suggested librarys as they all have a child area with mats so he's not sat in his pram or constantly being held on the visits these visits normally last 2 hours it's getting to the point where I say your not seeing him unless it's in a children's center or something similar my social worker seems to have no problem with my son going a pub 3 times a week baring in mind she's not allowed to see him unsupervised because of her alcohol use I'm unsure what to do now as I'm getting told there is no problem by social worker that they are meeting in a pub every week and don't want to make a decision that is gonna make me look bad later on when we are in court any advice on what to do I've informed my solicitor and waiting on a response from her my son's next visit is Friday and yet again his mom has asked to meet at the pub
 
They don't see a problem meeting in a pub with someone who has an alcohol problem...

I would ask for another social worker to review.
 
That's not my main concern yeah it's not ideal but my mum supervises it so she knows what to do if my ex partner was to turn up and start buying alcohol my problem is that my son has to sit there either in his pram or being held for over 2 hours 3 times a week he only 5 months and I don't think it's fair on him to be sat in a pub 3 times a week when I've suggested places to go where it would be more beneficial to both my son and his mother as they could interact more than just him sat in his mums arms for hours
 
I had to check it wasn’t April the first.
I would be telling social services the pub is not a suitable location period.
 
JayMC said:
I had to check it wasn’t April the first.
I would be telling social services the pub is not a suitable location period.
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This is the social worker that thinks my ex doesn't have a drink problem yet I'm in this situation now because of her drinking hence why she can only have supervised visits my social worker changed and this one now is all for mum
 
Then you need to play clever. Don’t deny contact, but state that a pub is not suitable for a child of this age and a new location needs to be found.
There’s no reason it can’t be a soft play with sensory area.
 
It's full on clown world at this point 🤡
If it's 3 times a week it would be reasonable to maybe one time go to the pub, one time to the library and the other a play centre. This would be brilliant for the baby as he'll experience loads of different environments and people. I personally can't stand social workers. They can't see beyond their own noses.
 
A pub is not a suitable environment for a 5 month old baby to have contact with either parent.

I wonder if the baby was in mothers care and you were the alcoholic demanding contact in a pub, would this also be deemed suitable? I very much doubt it.
 
kadafi9 said:
A pub is not a suitable environment for a 5 month old baby to have contact with either parent.

I wonder if the baby was in mothers care and you were the alcoholic demanding contact in a pub, would this also be deemed suitable? I very much doubt it
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No it wouldn't not at least with the social worker I have now who's all for mum and don't believe a word that comes out of my mouth yet I was the one who contacted them because I felt I and my son was in danger from the mother
 
So my social worker got back to me after 2 weeks of no contact and she said I'm making this out to be worse than it is by calling it a pub yet on the website it's called a modern pub last time I checked a pub is a pub don't matter if it's a nice one or some rough one
 
It’s absolutely ridiculous. I’m sure if a dad was suggesting a pub as a suitable contact point the SW/ Mum would be highlighting safeguarding issues.

Babies / young toddlers need to be able to roll about and interact not be tied in a pushchair or constantly handheld.

Library with bean bag kids corner, cafe with soft play area or actual soft play.

Not a beer stained pub carpet or high chair prison

Ridiculous
 
J - You are right that is absolutely ridiculous and if you've attended the pub a few times you have at least accommodated some. I think I would be taking a chance and suggesting somewhere else (soft play is ideal) and taking a chance that if I had to stand up in court and defend this action that a judge would see sense.

It's common sense that a pub is not appropriate for a young child in such a situation, and unfortunately their lays the problem in this day and age........
 
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