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C&ADad

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Hi all

I used to post on here as C&AsDad, I couldn't work out how to log in again so set this up.

My story..

October 2020- separation. Punched, kicked, told to get out, living in hotels & bedsits.

November 2020- still seeing the kids for about a month, but I noticed that every time I saw them there were little comments like "mum says we have no money", which I kind of disregarded as I thought "they know the truth"- how wrong I was

December 2020- in the space of a week, my ex told the kids she was dying of cancer because of me, that I was trying to have them put into foster care and trying to split them up, that I had multiple kids by other women, that my family are all paedophiles, and that I never loved them. My older daughter had a total nervous breakdown. Within 24 hours I found out that I had been accused by her of "inappropriate touching while watching child porn". Social Services and the police were informed. Went to court and I was told that a report would be prepared detailing the allegations, this never came. Next court date due in March 2021. I spent three months suicidal, expecting the door to come crashing in, never having even heard of PA, no contact from the kids, in lockdown, no family around (I was in Ireland), nothing. The last message my daughter sent to me said "you're our dad, our best friend, please don't forget about us and come get us". This was the only light left- hope.

March 2021- the next court hearing. Judge calls ex a 'disgrace' and orders immediate access. I am told by my solicitor that the allegations have changed- its now two counts of rape of my daughter as well as inappropriate touching. I rush around organising a supervisor, and access is set for two days after the court hearing, and I was crying with joy. The visit arrives and my daughter immediately starts attacking me verbally, my ex refuses to leave the house and tells the supervisor "he's a paedophile, he raped my daughter". We stuggle on with a few more visits that go the same way, then back to court to try and get an enforcement.

May 2021- back into court. Judge refuses to enforce because of the allegations, but does agree to order a 'voice of the child' report, and orders zoom calls. These never happen. Divorce papers are served. Ex abducts the children and goes back to live with her mum, so I move back into the family home to find that ex tried to set fire to the place before she left. I have a total breakdown, lose track of hours and come to walking up and down a train station platform, I find the car with the engine still running a mile away. This scares the living daylights out of me so the next day I assemble a 'legal team' specialising in false allegations, and seek therapy/ counselling, where I'm told I have severe cPTSD. I am told that the police will do everything they can to get a conviction, not to trust them, hide phones, expect the doors to come in at 4am, and the fact its a child means that it will likely go straight to charges.

August 2021- voice of the child report sessions. I am in there for 8 hours, ex fails to show up. She is summonsed to court and told that if she doesn't attend then she will be locked up, but the next session available is in December 2021, so another 4 months' delay. I continue to spend every day & night expecting "the knock", and spend weeks preparing my evidence- I get my phone cloned in case its seized, and contact a group called 'false allegation forensics'. The full horror of what I'm facing sinks in- I'm likely looking at charges carrying a 20 year sentence. On top of the grief, trying to hold a job down and messing around with affadavits, financial statements etc. Police confirm that "there is an active investigation around allegations of a very serious nature, and we will be in touch in due course". Solicitor tells me I am 'crazy' to go ahead with the voice of the child as unless its glowing, it could be used as evidence against me. I decide to go ahead anyway.

December 2021- the next voice of the child session. Delayed by another week as ex told the assessor that I was going to be "arrested and charged" within 48 hours. This never happen, but the assessor is so concerned that I spend 2 hours being grilled with questions about sex/ deviance and feel disgusted. Turns out that the assessor paid £500 for a 'sexual offender profile test' which the bloody FBI use, so that he can put it in the report.

February 2022- the report is issued. Judge sits on his throne, and after a long delay looks at me and says "it seems I owe you an apology". Looks at ex and says "if it wasn't for these allegations, you would be sitting where he is, requesting access to your own children. we are now firmly in transfer of residence territory". The report is glowing about me, and scathing of ex. I am deemed zero risk of sexual offences, violence, and the report outlines how the children have internalised the lies they were told. I am given full access every weekend and told to "sort out these allegations". However solicitor reminds me- "the police are still digging trying to build a case to lock you up for years, they don't care about the family court".

March 2022- Access starts, and ex refuses to attend. She is advised that I will never get any kind of enforcement while the allegations are live. I can do nothing. I end up on antidperessants, nothing to live for, all for nothing. the cPTSD gets worse, its debilitating. And still waiting for 'the knock'. I don't actually remember much about these months, they are a blur of grief, sadness, trauma, anger, and I feel like i have nothing to live for. I join some support groups who deal with PA and thats a bit of light.

August 2022- the phone rings, and its the police. Inviting me for 'interview'. I arrange a solicitor to attend with me, and he outlines the sheer size of the problem, that people tend to 'believe women' and 'believe children', and he says to say absolutely nothing to see what they have, and then prepare for trial based on what they're holding.

September 2022- police interrogation. I am arrested and the allegations are rape, sexual assault, child porn, strangulation, physical violence spanning 10 years. I spend a full day in the cells and being interrogated, and it is the worst day of my life. By some distance. Solicitor says he never heard anything like it- there is no evidence apart from statements, but he says "its still fairly likely you'll be charged, its a child and a woman". He says that based on all the evidence I have- locations, messages, cards, photos, I would be "ok", but by that stage my name would be out there- would lose job, lose everything. I am struggling to cope.

April 2023- divorce day. While driving to the court to get divorced, the police call and say they need to get into my house to search it, they have a warrant. Ex fails to show for divorce hearing- solicitor & barrister remark "this cannot be a coincidence". My head is everywhere- she attends the next day and I spend the day thrashing out divorce deals while fielding work calls and getting calls from the police telling me they are coming in.

May 2023- police come. They search the place and take loads of photos. Its the superintendant that comes, which I'm told means they are taking it very seriously.

May 2023- September 2023- a living hell. Waiting, thinking, worrying. I take up breathwork, reiki, psychoanalysis, join groups, and I get really physically fit to try to deal with things- just trying to stay alive. Knowing that the next day might be my last one alive. I learn train timetables in case they charge as I know I wouldn't be able to deal with it, wondering whether I should just end it all before they get chance, yet I have this feeling "no, they'd think that was an admission, there is always hope", but that feeling dims with each day.

September 14th 2023- the phone rings and its the criminal solicitor, he says "I have big news". After what felt like 3 hours, but was probably around 5 seconds, he say "no charges, they knew it wasn't true, but they had to exhaust all avenues, and they'll go to family court to say as much if you like". I am crying as I type that again. Its over. The rest of the day is a blur, I can't think, speak, I just go to bed and sleep for about 14 hours. I tell my solicitor and she says she wants to complain about making false statements, but I have had enough, I can't deal with any more. All I can think about is its over, I have a second chance at life

From then to now- I thought it was a second chance, but its tough. I have really bad cPTSD and go to therapy each week. I'm told that because I was in 'fight or flight' for 3 years, the grief and trauma never came to the surface. It well and truly has now. My kids are now too old to do anything legally, at 17 and 15, so my vindication came too late. There is nothing I can do.

I guess if I was going to give any kind of advice, it would be of the cheesy kind- never ever give up. If I look back a year I was not divorced, waiting for the police to smash the door in, struggling to function & hold a job down, spent £85k in legal fees and counting, its a bit better now. I am involved in all kinds of support groups working to raise awareness (check the Parental Alienation section!), I just signed up to do a masters in PA studies, there is ALWAYS hope. I have a facebook page where I put up messages and photos of the kids, and I am tying to just be the person I need to be for when the phone beeps and its them. I'd also like to say that there is no person more resilient, strong and wise on this planet as an alienated dad, and sometimes we should remember that. Sending very manly hugs to you all, and I'll definitely be back on here for the long haul now.

Cheers

Rob
 
Wow, I'll be honest, your post has made me cry (hormonal woman here lol).
What that woman put you through is unbelievable and pure evil.
I'm so sorry you've been to those dark places.
I hope and pray everyone with alienated children get to reconnect one day.
 
Wow!! Proper did me that did!!

Keep strong 💪

I can’t even imagine what you have been through and the places your minds been! :-(

Its been... well you can probably imagine how its been. I try to throw myself into supporting people now best I can, and one thing I do have to say- this group is the best I've ever seen in terms of 'bringing it all together' whether its somewhere to chat or find resources, its brilliant.

All I can do is try to live the best life I can and pray that one day they come back, in the meantime I'm trying to help a group to promote awareness of PA before the various lobby groups manage to wipe it out of the family court process, then god knows how many kids would have to endure it.
 
The last message my daughter sent to me said "you're our dad, our best friend, please don't forget about us and come get us"
This, this made me shed a tear, cos i too long to hear that from my son or at least something lile that.

I can never fully understand how low a women can get, I don't class all women in this,but is a perfect example of how to really rip a man's soul out and trample all over it Put it back then do it all over again time after time.

Just remember as the song says

"Now watch me rise up and leave,
All the ashes you made out of me"
 
Its been... well you can probably imagine how its been. I try to throw myself into supporting people now best I can, and one thing I do have to say- this group is the best I've ever seen in terms of 'bringing it all together' whether its somewhere to chat or find resources, its brilliant.

All I can do is try to live the best life I can and pray that one day they come back, in the meantime I'm trying to help a group to promote awareness of PA before the various lobby groups manage to wipe it out of the family court process, then god knows how many kids would have to endure it.
It’s good to see you keeping positive and making positive ripples from your experience. Trauma response is a funny thing and can go either way, you are definitely going the positive way. Hat of to you! Keep strong 💪
 
I've merged the two accounts so your older and current posts are all under the same username now.

You've been to hell and back by the sound of it. I haven't had chance to read it all properly yet. But yes the way things are going with various factions trying to say PA is a pseudoscience, there is very much a need for a group like the one you're part of.
 
I read that and cant begin to imagine how you've felt during your years living in Survival Mode, your last comment is so true, there is no one tougher than a Dad seperated from their Child.

It's incredibly admirable that you have focused that grief and negative experiences into a strength supporting the anti PA work and other fathers going through similar experiences.

There seems to be a missing component to all this, in that all these women who do this are clearly broken and society hadn't even begun to address why that is when it's still failing to recognise the problem of PA in the first place.

Thanks for coming back here, sharing your difficult journey and commitment to support members on the forum.

I hope your advice helps others to avoid the pitfalls they face trying to be their for their children.

I know that one day you will have the opportunity to show your children what you went through for them, they have a future ahead of them and I pray they have the opportunity to invite you into it for their benefit and yours.

You have our support and our thanks, on their behalf, for never giving up.

🫶 🙏 👏
 
I read that and cant begin to imagine how you've felt during your years living in Survival Mode, your last comment is so true, there is no one tougher than a Dad seperated from their Child.

It's incredibly admirable that you have focused that grief and negative experiences into a strength supporting the anti PA work and other fathers going through similar experiences.

There seems to be a missing component to all this, in that all these women who do this are clearly broken and society hadn't even begun to address why that is when it's still failing to recognise the problem of PA in the first place.

Thanks for coming back here, sharing your difficult journey and commitment to support members on the forum.

I hope your advice helps others to avoid the pitfalls they face trying to be their for their children.

I know that one day you will have the opportunity to show your children what you went through for them, they have a future ahead of them and I pray they have the opportunity to invite you into it for their benefit and yours.

You have our support and our thanks, on their behalf, for never giving up.

🫶 🙏 👏
I’m actually very moved by that post, thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻
 
I'm sure you'll all agree with me that the biggest frustration (can't think of the right word) is that they get away with it.
The dad goes through hell with the constant threat of arrest and all that follows from that. Allegations of abuse and being a paedophile is just disgusting.
There's no justice and the dad is just expected to dust himself off and not be bothered.
 
Frustration,Injustice,persecution,mental abuse there's an abundance of words that can describe the effect it has on a Dad, a does the party responsible feel any sense of guilt...No,they never will, but they need to look at themselves, how did it get to where it did? Why did it breakdown? Now, I'm not going to pretend there aren't men who are responsible and some in the most horrific ways,but c'mon, it fails it breaks down,so where does it say the ex wife has the Right to damage the father of the children, there's no right,no matter how bitter you have become, it's short-sightedness, it's selfish, they ain't trying to protect their children they are messing the kids up for years to come.
 
It seems to me that maybe on a personal level the courts, police, cafcass etc may be able to forward think in regards to "if this woman can demonise the father of her children like this, how does she treat the kids?"
But will no evidence of this there's nothing they can do. Especially the mothers who put on the sweet and innocent act.
Or maybe they are just weak and just want to stick to the status quo and bow down to the mother.
 
Unfortunately the demonic stbx's,again not all ex's, know that they only have to say or alledge and it derails everything for months on end, it's a ploy, their manipulative friends get involved,poison dripped in the ear of the ex etc so it becomes an emotionless fight.

I know exactly how my stbx is playing me atm, along with her friend and her family, which can only be best described as a cult, I saw how they laid down the rules with her previous partner and tbh I see the same happening. My ears a re constantly on fire cos I know they just plotting their next moves. Its a sorry state cos don't they realise,once the child reconnects then the dad can show,prove he was fighting and was the mother who was the brick wall.
 
The cps can prosecute for perverting the course of justice - unfortunately that very rarely happens - probably partly because they are overloaded and partly because of this ingrained attitude in society that physical abuse is the only real “abuse “ and that women - especially mothers - are nice.

The reality is there are bad (and unhinged) women as well as men.
 
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So the latest update is that my ex started sending messages to my current partner last night saying that I am "dangerous", a "child molester" and other lovely views. Luckily I told my partner the whole story soon after meeting her, so she knows everything anyway, I have nothing to hide.

I was half expecting this when the CPS said the allegations were lies & her plan to get me locked away failed, and I was half expecting it when I sent a xmas card to the kids (first time I could since 2019), but why she has started this now is beyond me. Perhaps things aren't so rosy for her now, I don't know.

I will be honest- even seeing her name triggered me totally, the cPTSD kicked in and it sent me into a spiral of depression, fear, anxiety and a whole load of self loathing. I used to not want to 'rock the boat' because I know that if I do anything then she'll take it out on the kids. Not any more though- I did my morning run, my meditation, my breathing, got grounded, just sat and thought about things clearly once the fear had gone, and decided "no more". I was totally & utterly vindicated by detectives, judges, social workers and I'm not having it any more, so a letter is on its way to her with an immediate demand to cease & desist, an application for a non mol is in, and I am considering whether to make a complaint for harassment. For starters.

One of the key ways we- alienated parents- get manipulated is guilt- "how could you do that, this shows that you never really cared" etc, alienators are masters at making us feel guilty like its all our fault. But sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and do what's right, not try to be nice, and today is the day I drew that line.
 
Good you're getting a non molestation order. Have you read some of @Scotay's posts? He had this kind of thing for a few years and his ex ended up going to prison (and he got residency).
 
spot on- you cannot charge someone for "just repeating what my daughter said"...
Good you're getting a non molestation order. Have you read some of @Scotay's posts? He had this kind of thing for a few years and his ex ended up going to prison (and he got residency).

Yeah mate if you need to chat by all means reach out.

I had a lot of the same, apart from the child abuse accusations. At least my ex didn't stoop that low although she did accuse me of historical rape over years.

Like you said the police are duty bound to investigate and my ex, among many others, they are very good at playing the poor frightened woman routine and you as the big bad scary man. Took a while for the police to get that making of her but they did in the end.
 
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