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I do mean to come and post more but then I think I don’t really want to be the one posting sad story’s all the time not really fair on others who are still fighting.
I understand this but you're a valued member of the site and if it helps you, you should keep posting.
The reality of these situations aren't always positive outcomes and people can choose not to read a post they may find too difficult.
You need an outlet for your grief so post away as far as I'm concerned.
 
I keep reading these stories and every one of them breaks my heart. How can a parent alienate their child from the other. There is a documentary called My Wife, My Abuser and although it is about the physical abuse of a man by his wife, the emotional abuse is also horrific. I pray the tide will turn and expose the cruel and despicable behaviour of women who do this. I can only say that a mother who does that is also very destructive in other ways and will pay a huge price.
 
I also want to say again that I am a film maker and because my son is going through this, it has shined a light for me on the horrific inadequacy of our justice system and its failure to prevent such appalling injustices happen. I am making a documentary about this and would be very happy to tell people’s stories. Something has to change so if anyone is interested you can certainly message me.
 
Hi all,

I joined this forum a few years back but I forgot my username and password! This site and Ash helped me get through a difficult experience with my child's mother who was doing all the usual crap that you commonly see, controlling, lying etc etc. I endured a year long case in which I was afforded more time by 3 judges (female) who could see the forest from the trees. It was the last judge (who I would LOVE to name on here but cant) who has a worrying track record of questionable judgements, who showed how cruel the system can be.

This particular judge, who made the national tabloids for his poor judgement, let my then one year old daughter, relocate with her mother to the USA (her mum is American) despite CAFCASS recommending she stay, and there being a trail of lies and inconsistencies. Without going into all the details, my daughters mum was upset that I wanted nothing to do with her, but still wanted a relationship with our child. She worked a high earning job and had tons of money, so I guess she was surprised that I had the audacity to not want her. She did everything possible, to paint the picture of someone who needed to go rather than someone who wanted to go. This meant fitting the criteria of relocation considerations, no support, no finances (she conveniently was made redundant), no hope (rolls eyes).
As mentioned before the previous three female judges had all seen this, as it was CLEAR AS DAY, but the last judge had no interest in my case from the start. I had to endure a three day hearing knowing what his decision was going to be, and sure enough a week later he sent a written judgement in which he shifted all the blame on me and basically said my daughter will be fine without a father in the US.

This was October 23, its has been over a year now and I have had time to reflect on my time dealing with the family court system. I commend all the fathers that have fought and continue to fight. It takes a lot of guts to go through this nonsense knowing that the system is broken and favours women as a default. I will say this though, yes I miss my daughter, and I have not physically seen her since Feb 24, but there is a certain level of peace that I have in my life now that her mum is not around. I still have to contact her to speak to my daughter via video call, and I have tried to seek level ground with her, but the latter is pointless as this has never been about the child. With this in mind, I have decided to begin the process of moving on and moving forward.

Most of us on here are good men and we want to be present in our children's lives at all times, but we are bound by a system that is more about luck than reality. With this being our reality its important that we move on with our lives as best as we can. By all means, be present, be available, always keep the door open, but if the other parent is hell bent on making your life miserable, what it there to back you up? CAFCASS? Even that is dependable on who you get looking at your case, and quite frankly its not enough. We have to spend 10s sometimes 100s of thousands to be told that we are allowed to play a bit part role in our child's lives, when that money could be used for something more productive pertaining to our children.

We have to prioritise our own wellbeing after a point and trust that things will work out, even if it is 20 years later. I think alot of us want to fight because as men we are prideful and are ruled by logic, but family court is run by a bunch of bozos, 90% of the time we are fighting for scraps. Take time to heal, be there for your kids, but don't allow yourself to become so broken that you miss you future blessings. I'm 34 years old as I type this, I had my daughter when I was 31, the great thing about being a man is that we don't have an expiry date on when we can start a family (void of any medical issues). I fully intend to have more children and build a family with a woman who is not ruled by her own selfish desires. I deserve that, I don't deserve the mess that comes with my daughters mother, and its the same for YOU. You're reading this because you care about your child or children, and have to put up with utter nonsense, when it shouldn't be the case. Its not normal and you don't deserve it.

Yes, continue to fight, but only for as long as you feel capable. Keep records, send cards, call on birthdays, ALWAYS be there! But lets start normalising moving on, our children will find us, and our future families need us.

Stay strong lads! Things will work out. Brighter days are ahead💙

Anyone have any questions regarding my case, id be more than happy to answer them :)
 
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Hi all,

I joined this forum a few years back but I forgot my username and password! This site and Ash helped me get through a difficult experience with my child's mother who was doing all the usual crap that you commonly see, controlling, lying etc etc. I endured a year long case in which I was afforded more time by 3 judges (female) who could see the forest from the trees. It was the last judge (who I would LOVE to name on here but cant) who has a worrying track record of questionable judgements, who showed how cruel the system can be.

This particular judge, who made the national tabloids for his poor judgement, let my then one year old daughter, relocate with her mother to the USA (her mum is American) despite CAFCASS recommending she stay, and there being a trail of lies and inconsistencies. Without going into all the details, my daughters mum was upset that I wanted nothing to do with her, but still wanted a relationship with our child. She worked a high earning job and had tons of money, so I guess she was surprised that I had the audacity to not want her. She did everything possible, to paint the picture of someone who needed to go rather than someone who wanted to go. This meant fitting the criteria of relocation considerations, no support, no finances (she conveniently was made redundant), no hope (rolls eyes).
As mentioned before the previous three female judges had all seen this, as it was CLEAR AS DAY, but the last judge had no interest in my case from the start. I had to endure a three day hearing knowing what his decision was going to be, and sure enough a week later he sent a written judgement in which he shifted all the blame on me and basically said my daughter will be fine without a father in the US.

This was October 23, its has been over a year now and I have had time to reflect on my time dealing with the family court system. I commend all the fathers that have fought and continue to fight. It takes a lot of guts to go through this nonsense knowing that the system is broken and favours women as a default. I will say this though, yes I miss my daughter, and I have not physically seen her since Feb 24, but there is a certain level of peace that I have in my life now that her mum is not around. I still have to contact her to speak to my daughter via video call, and I have tried to seek level ground with her, but the latter is pointless as this has never been about the child. With this in mind, I have decided to begin the process of moving on and moving forward.

Most of us on here are good men and we want to be present in our children's lives at all times, but we are bound by a system that is more about luck than reality. With this being our reality its important that we move on with our lives as best as we can. By all means, be present, be available, always keep the door open, but if the other parent is hell bent on making your life miserable, what it there to back you up? CAFCASS? Even that is dependable on who you get looking at your case, and quite frankly its not enough. We have to spend 10s sometimes 100s of thousands to be told that we are allowed to play a bit part role in our child's lives, when that money could be used for something more productive pertaining to our children.

We have to prioritise our own wellbeing after a point and trust that things will work out, even if it is 20 years later. I think alot of us want to fight because as men we are prideful and are ruled by logic, but family court is run by a bunch of bozos, 90% of the time we are fighting for scraps. Take time to heal, be there for your kids, but don't allow yourself to become so broken that you miss you future blessings. I'm 34 years old as I type this, I had my daughter when I was 31, the great thing about being a man is that we don't have an expiry date on when we can start a family (void of any medical issues). I fully intend to have more children and build a family with a woman who is not ruled by her own selfish desires. I deserve that, I don't deserve the mess that comes with my daughters mother, and its the same for YOU. You're reading this because you care about your child or children, and have to put up with utter nonsense, when it shouldn't be the case. Its not normal and you don't deserve it.

Yes, continue to fight, but only for as long as you feel capable. Keep records, send cards, call on birthdays, ALWAYS be there! But lets start normalising moving on, our children will find us, and our future families need us.

Stay strong lads! Things will work out. Brighter days are ahead💙

Anyone have any questions regarding my case, id be more than happy to answer them :)
Would you be willing to talk about your experience for a documentary I am making about how the court fails fathers? You see my voice may be a very powerful one both as a female filmmaker but also as a woman who truly went through domestic violence but I absolutely advocate for children not to be separated from their fathers. It’s cruel and vile when women make up lies about abuse and as a genuine victim of Domestic abuse it is an insult and a dangerous path leading to a situation where genuine victims won’t be believed. I also have a song going through this and he is distraught that his daughter has been withheld on the basis of lies. No one can tell me I don’t understand the woman’s perspective, I have been there with bells on, but I also know that there are so many wonderful fathers whose children miss them terribly. It is appalling and the court system brutalises families further by delay and complete lack of compassion. Someone has to speak out against women abusing the system.
 
Would you be willing to talk about your experience for a documentary I am making about how the court fails fathers? You see my voice may be a very powerful one both as a female filmmaker but also as a woman who truly went through domestic violence but I absolutely advocate for children not to be separated from their fathers. It’s cruel and vile when women make up lies about abuse and as a genuine victim of Domestic abuse it is an insult and a dangerous path leading to a situation where genuine victims won’t be believed. I also have a song going through this and he is distraught that his daughter has been withheld on the basis of lies. No one can tell me I don’t understand the woman’s perspective, I have been there with bells on, but I also know that there are so many wonderful fathers whose children miss them terribly. It is appalling and the court system brutalises families further by delay and complete lack of compassion. Someone has to speak out against women abusing the system.
Yeah I wouldn't mind contributing to the doc, although I would have to do so anonymously. But I agree the court system is a wreck, all we can do is be present and move on with life!
 
Hello anonymously is absolutely fine. It is your chance to have your voice heard and perhaps have on record what you went through as well as telling your daughter how much you love her and tried to fight for her. It is appalling that women can legal aid only for domestic violence. This encourages people to lie and will result in genuine victims not being believed. Everyone in family court should get legal aid. The law must change. A Spotlight must be shone on this for all our children.
 
Hello anonymously is absolutely fine. It is your chance to have your voice heard and perhaps have on record what you went through as well as telling your daughter how much you love her and tried to fight for her. It is appalling that women can legal aid only for domestic violence. This encourages people to lie and will result in genuine victims not being believed. Everyone in family court should get legal aid. The law must change. A Spotlight must be shone on this for all our children.
Yeah, ive got a whole file set up for her so when she gets to a certain age she will be able to access all the documents. Pictures, court papers, orders, the lot. She can read through and decide for herself.
 
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It's great @stellafilms that you're making a documentary - I hope it counters the biased Channel 4 documentary! Can I suggest anyone who does agree to be involved, gets some legal advice first, just to cover yourselves against contempt of court @MLwmd90 . Anonymity may be the solution but if anyone is still in proceedings it could still be contempt of court possibly.

@MLwmd90 I've found your previous username and messaged you.
 
I don't know that's why you'd need to check with a Solicitor, if you have a case proceeding at the moment.
 
Hi all,

I joined this forum a few years back but I forgot my username and password! This site and Ash helped me get through a difficult experience with my child's mother who was doing all the usual crap that you commonly see, controlling, lying etc etc. I endured a year long case in which I was afforded more time by 3 judges (female) who could see the forest from the trees. It was the last judge (who I would LOVE to name on here but cant) who has a worrying track record of questionable judgements, who showed how cruel the system can be.

This particular judge, who made the national tabloids for his poor judgement, let my then one year old daughter, relocate with her mother to the USA (her mum is American) despite CAFCASS recommending she stay, and there being a trail of lies and inconsistencies. Without going into all the details, my daughters mum was upset that I wanted nothing to do with her, but still wanted a relationship with our child. She worked a high earning job and had tons of money, so I guess she was surprised that I had the audacity to not want her. She did everything possible, to paint the picture of someone who needed to go rather than someone who wanted to go. This meant fitting the criteria of relocation considerations, no support, no finances (she conveniently was made redundant), no hope (rolls eyes).
As mentioned before the previous three female judges had all seen this, as it was CLEAR AS DAY, but the last judge had no interest in my case from the start. I had to endure a three day hearing knowing what his decision was going to be, and sure enough a week later he sent a written judgement in which he shifted all the blame on me and basically said my daughter will be fine without a father in the US.

This was October 23, its has been over a year now and I have had time to reflect on my time dealing with the family court system. I commend all the fathers that have fought and continue to fight. It takes a lot of guts to go through this nonsense knowing that the system is broken and favours women as a default. I will say this though, yes I miss my daughter, and I have not physically seen her since Feb 24, but there is a certain level of peace that I have in my life now that her mum is not around. I still have to contact her to speak to my daughter via video call, and I have tried to seek level ground with her, but the latter is pointless as this has never been about the child. With this in mind, I have decided to begin the process of moving on and moving forward.

Most of us on here are good men and we want to be present in our children's lives at all times, but we are bound by a system that is more about luck than reality. With this being our reality its important that we move on with our lives as best as we can. By all means, be present, be available, always keep the door open, but if the other parent is hell bent on making your life miserable, what it there to back you up? CAFCASS? Even that is dependable on who you get looking at your case, and quite frankly its not enough. We have to spend 10s sometimes 100s of thousands to be told that we are allowed to play a bit part role in our child's lives, when that money could be used for something more productive pertaining to our children.

We have to prioritise our own wellbeing after a point and trust that things will work out, even if it is 20 years later. I think alot of us want to fight because as men we are prideful and are ruled by logic, but family court is run by a bunch of bozos, 90% of the time we are fighting for scraps. Take time to heal, be there for your kids, but don't allow yourself to become so broken that you miss you future blessings. I'm 34 years old as I type this, I had my daughter when I was 31, the great thing about being a man is that we don't have an expiry date on when we can start a family (void of any medical issues). I fully intend to have more children and build a family with a woman who is not ruled by her own selfish desires. I deserve that, I don't deserve the mess that comes with my daughters mother, and its the same for YOU. You're reading this because you care about your child or children, and have to put up with utter nonsense, when it shouldn't be the case. Its not normal and you don't deserve it.

Yes, continue to fight, but only for as long as you feel capable. Keep records, send cards, call on birthdays, ALWAYS be there! But lets start normalising moving on, our children will find us, and our future families need us.

Stay strong lads! Things will work out. Brighter days are ahead💙

Anyone have any questions regarding my case, id be more than happy to answer them :)
Absolutely. You've got to find peace with the situation and still have a life. It's gut wrenching and cruel and these women want good dads living in the gutter with nothing. Don't let them do that to you.
 
Hello everyone I absolutely don’t want anyone to suffer or jeopardise anyone going through court proceedings. My son is currently going through this. Names can be changed and stories can be anonymous. I am interviewing someone next week whose kids are now grown so the court has no power . However, he is also wanting to be interviewed anonymously. Which is fine. Conversely I think I need to speak openly. Precisely because I have gone through domestic violence and therefore can see both sides but I feel so passionately that women must not abuse the legal system. Irrespective a light must be shone on this. Bullying happens when people keep quiet and it’s how they get away with it. The legal system is a disgrace and I plan to speak to lawyers etc about their views. There are reports in the law society that are damming of the legal system. The greatest victim being the children. It is an outrage.
 
It's something I need to look into more, as even after court cases are finished, it's about protecting the childrens anonymity which is why it can be contempt of court. I can't see why anonymously can't be done but it would need legal advice.
 
Hi Ash would you be willing to speak as the moderator of this group. It doesn’t necessarily need to be about your own experience but perhaps could be about how so many people on this site are so traumatised by their expand how important it is for people to know about this
 
Individual stories might be more effective. I don't think I could comment on individual cases on here as it's a support group and personal to the individuals.
 
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