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Girlfriend clash with co-parenting

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6 months after the birth of our son my marriage broke down. This was 7 years ago. The following 5 years were horrible. I was denied access, controlled, taken to court, had every accusation thrown at me. You name it and I'm sure you know the scenario well. Eventually the courts ruled that there was no basis for fact of all the things I'd been accused of (planning to abduct my son, violence etc.. ). All of this was proven to be lies and is a matter of public record so I'm not just here to soften the blow or make myself out to be holier than thou.

Finally I have access to my son, not 50/50 but enough that we're a good presence in each-other lives.

During the court case I got involved with someone new. 2 lovely kids who I've treated as my own. Her relationship with her ex never got to court but has been very toxic. I've tried to support but have also having seen how they behave I vowed to repair and co-parent with my ex-wife as best as possible so as not to be like my girlfriend and her ex

In many ways that has actually happened. I think objectively my ex-wife and I have both been very mature about putting our son first. We have attended parents evenings and sports days together and have shown utter respect during handovers. I believe this is all to the benefit of our son even though I have many reasons to not like her.

My girlfriend has always been the jealous kind. Accusing me of staring at other women, having interest in work colleagues, questioning where I am, going through my phone contacts demanding who people are. I've always try to understand that she came from bitterly divorced parents too and we've even been to therapy where she admitted she had low self esteem and trust issues. In contrast while I've had my struggles I'm a pretty secure 50 year old man with a good business and good friends

My girlfriend and I have had a few rough patches over the years and especially the last 3/4 months, mainly around her feeling like I'm not committed to her simply because I don't want to live with her. I lost my house and pretty much everything I'd worked for when my marriage ended and I just don't want to risk going there again.

2 days ago I mentioned to my girlfriend that myself and my ex had talked about buying a drumkit for my sons birthday (which he'd asked for.) As it's a main present she suggested we go halves and tell him it's from us. I'm ok with this and as a drummer myself was keen for him to start playing.. This flipped my girlfriend out and she asked me whether I was having a relationship with my ex-wife and hoping to get back with her. Her told her absolutely not, but that there would be times in the future that we would co-parent in the best way and that there would be events we would attend together. I don't really see buying our son a drumkit as anything different to sharing the cost of a school trip, or clothing, or later on things like a first car or helping him with a deposit for a flat. I see it simply as showing our son that his parents work together to give him the best life we can. My girlfriend then stormed off taking her boys with her (and leaving me and my son in the park) and then texted to say that I have disrespected her by even thinking of buying a shared gift, that it would confuse our son ,and that our relationship (of nearly 6 years) is over.

I haven't replied and won't be. In the first instance I would never go back to someone who thought it was ok to throw away 6 years of a relationship by text. Secondly her kids see me as a significant adult and my son sees her kids as brothers. They will now have lost me and my son and I would've lost them. That's heartbreaking

So, am I wrong to have offered to buy a shared gift for our son? His mum and I have been through utter hell but we've survived and our son is a happy go lucky boy who's under no impression we are together or getting back together. We just want him to grow up knowing that his Mum and Dad were there for him at every stage.

Lots to unpack there I know but advice is appreciated
 
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with.m buying shared Christmas or birthday presents with an ex - especially for expensive items. It’s very sensible. I only wish my ex would have done things like that instead of making it into a competition as to who gave the best presents 🙄. Having said that - if it’s one big item - where is it going to live? At your ex’s house? This is one reason I accepted my ex not wanting to do shared gifts so my son had some of his own things at my home as well. Wait till it’s a PC when he’s a teenager! Although some parents move Xboxes and ipads between homes at handover.

A drum kit is great - too much tech stuff these days.

This has nothing to do with your girlfriend. Unless there is more to it - eg maybe she thought presents should be from you and her? I know if I had done a joint big gift with ex, partner and I would still have given a smaller gift from partner and myself - something he could use at our home.

I think you have to let the gf go also. It’s not like you were taking your ex out to dinner or something! It’s child related and parenting. Now I did have some issues in the first year with my partner over ex and I texting over arrangements. And she was suspicious ex wanted me back. She read up some stuff about co parenting and accepted it but I did involve her in all the texts after that so she could see it was all just about child arrangements. She was happier then.

I feel sorry for gf’s kids. They lost their Dad and now they’re losing you and your son. And obviously it’s hard for your son too.

I think it’s admirable you’ve got things on good terms with your ex. I’m just wondering if it’s now possible to do the same with gf so the kids can still have the occasional get together. Although by the sound of her it probably won’t be possible.

“mainly around her feeling like I'm not committed to her simply because I don't want to live with ”

Tbh the writing was probably on the wall there. She would indeed see that as lack of commitment. I fully understand your view as well - although partner and I were living together within a couple of years. But marriage was off the cards for both of us due to previous insecurities.

On the positive side - maybe her kids will get to see more of their Dad now?
 
I think you need to decide categorically it’s off and just explain to your son that gf and her kids have moved on and it’s sad for you both but you have each other. And do lots of fun things together and keep him busy and meet up with family etc. At least it won’t be quite so tough on all the kids if you and gf weren’t actually living together.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with.m buying shared Christmas or birthday presents with an ex - especially for expensive items. It’s very sensible. I only wish my ex would have done things like that instead of making it into a competition as to who gave the best presents 🙄. Having said that - if it’s one big item - where is it going to live? At your ex’s house? This is one reason I accepted my ex not wanting to do shared gifts so my son had some of his own things at my home as well. Wait till it’s a PC when he’s a teenager! Although some parents move Xboxes and ipads between homes at handover.

A drum kit is great - too much tech stuff these days.

This has nothing to do with your girlfriend. Unless there is more to it - eg maybe she thought presents should be from you and her? I know if I had done a joint big gift with ex, partner and I would still have given a smaller gift from partner and myself - something he could use at our home.

I think you have to let the gf go also. It’s not like you were taking your ex out to dinner or something! It’s child related and parenting. Now I did have some issues in the first year with my partner over ex and I texting over arrangements. And she was suspicious ex wanted me back. She read up some stuff about co parenting and accepted it but I did involve her in all the texts after that so she could see it was all just about child arrangements. She was happier then.

I feel sorry for gf’s kids. They lost their Dad and now they’re losing you and your son. And obviously it’s hard for your son too.

I think it’s admirable you’ve got things on good terms with your ex. I’m just wondering if it’s now possible to do the same with gf so the kids can still have the occasional get together. Although by the sound of her it probably won’t be possible.

“mainly around her feeling like I'm not committed to her simply because I don't want to live with ”

Tbh the writing was probably on the wall there. She would indeed see that as lack of commitment. I fully understand your view as well - although partner and I were living together within a couple of years. But marriage was off the cards for both of us due to previous insecurities.

On the positive side - maybe her kids will get to see more of their Dad now?
I would've still bought shared presents with my girlfriend in the same way I buy shared presents for her kids. It was never an either / or. I didn't get far enough to explain that before she stormed off. I get that being the new person in co-parenting is hard as she's never going to be no.1 but i also co-parent her kids and have had zero issues with her ex. On the couple of occasions I've actually met him he seems like a decent bloke. On the other hand when my ex did bunp into myself / girlfriend / son together at a festival my girlfriend ignored her, and made it very obvious too.

As far as living together, I've always been up-front about wanting / needing my own space and I've always told my girlfriend that if it's a deal breaker she should say and we could then remain friends. What I don't get is being dumped by text after 6 years for buying a shared gift. fy it would stay at my ex-wives house as my son lives there more, and I had a kit at mine he can use. I'm not precious about that stuff. It's about him having nice things in his life

The living together thing was something I always
 
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I think you need to decide categorically it’s off and just explain to your son that gf and her kids have moved on and it’s sad for you both but you have each other. And do lots of fun things together and keep him busy and meet up with family etc. At least it won’t be quite so tough on all the kids if you and gf weren’t actually living together.
That's true, and it's on of the reasons I vowed never to live with someone again after divorce cos I couldn't stand the thought of having a safe home taken away again
 
Its a tough one but I think you've done the right thing and should there be a reconcilliation you will have set a firm boundary (Hopefully)
That's really not on the cards. I think mainly I'm seeking advice on whether I should be buying shared gifts, cos no-one gives you a manual on this stuff and in truth I'm making it up as I go along based on my best judgement
 
If my partners ex suddenly became reasonable (hell will freeze over first) and wanted to do shared gifts and be amicable I would welcome it. Anything but the chaos she has caused.
I trust my partner explicitly and know he'd never get back with his ex. Whatever is best for the kids is the main thing.
I totally understand your not wanting to move in together. Your next relationship needs to be with an independent woman who has her own interests and no emotional baggage. We do exist 😀
 
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If my partners ex suddenly became reasonable (hell will freeze over first) and wanted to do shared gifts and be amicable I would welcome it. Anything but the chaos she has caused.
I trust my partner explicitly and know he'd never get back with his ex. Whatever is best for the kids is the main thing.
I totally understand your not wanting to move in together. Your next relationship needs to be with an independent woman who has her own interests and no emotional baggage. We do exist 😀
Thanks so much for saying that!! Not feeling a great prospect of being single again but your post gives me hope 🙂
 
I think the difficulty now would be if your girl-friend wants to make up. I suspect things have been building up for a while though and she probably wants things that you don't want.
 
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