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eaj81

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Been seperated about 2 years and for the last 18 months, consistently, my 2 daughters to my ex wife have come and stayed. I live just down the road and in June of this year the court approved equal shared care. So it’s been 50/50 access and the CMS case was closed. My eldest is 11 and has struggled most with the separation. In the early days she didn’t want to see me. I had an affair and fathered another child and I take full responsibility for my actions. Since that moment I’ve tried to be a dad to all 3 girls and make amends.

For the last year things have been fine in terms of contact and we have had lovely consistent times together - we’ve always been very close. Of late though she has started to show her independence by refusing to go places and has now said she doesn’t want to either see me at all or very infrequently. This has broken me and I’ve tried everything to talk to her, but she says she needs space.

However a big part of this is that my ex is emotionally abusing her and alienating me to gain control. She has told our children that she wishes I would die, that I don’t love them, that I’ve ruined their life, that I don’t support them, that they should not see me to illicit more child benefit, that their half sister is a bastard, and that it’s ok to say these things as she’s the innocent party. For 2 years this campaign of resentment and toxicity has been going on. I don’t dispute that I caused all of this and that will be a big part of why my eldest may struggle, but that doesn’t make this ok or justified.

But I don’t know what to do. Every time I challenge her, or try to speak with my eldest, it makes matters worse. What should I do? I guarantee my ex will be contacting court to change the order to get money. She is driven by money and sponges off me.

How do I get my daughter back? How do I deal with my ex? What advice should I seek? What do I do about the court order?
 
You're right, your ex shouldn't be telling your daughters any of those bad things. She should be venting her anger to a friend. I understand her anger and upset towards you. But no way should the girls have to hear it.

It's great you got a 50/50 order as they seem to be quite rare.

So is your eldest turning up at all to see you or has she stopped completely? When did you last see her?
If you haven't seen your daughter in a while, don't bombard her with messages but maybe write her a letter saying how sorry you are for how you changed the family dynamic. Say how proud you are to be her dad and no matter what happens you love her and will always be here for her.

The issue with court is that once a child is 11/12 they start to take their wishes and feelings more seriously. So if a child says they don't want to see dad (whether parroting their mum or not) they may suggest changing the order to allow the child to decide.
Do you think the ex will reapply to court to change the order?
 
I’ve seen her a fair bit last week as her mum was on holiday. We did so much good stuff together and had some open conversations. But now my ex is back the barriers are up and her demeanour has changed.

My wife has even now turned the girls against her own family after she tried it on with her sisters husband (!), saying they are the evil ones in front of them. She’s brainwashing them with lies and I can’t just standby and see it unfold.

Without doubt she will want the court order changing as she is obsessed with money. She’s told the girls in the past to see less of me so that they get more money. And she hates the fact I pay maintenance to my other daughter. So I’m expecting it, but not quite sure what to expect in terms of process?
 
It's good you're still seeing her.

There's nothing you can do to change your exs behaviour and what she is saying. But you can keep showing the girls how a strong and stable parent can be. Never ever bad mouth their mum. Just keep telling them they can come to yours whenever they like and you're only a phone call away.
Hopefully they will see their mother not only treating you badly but their uncle too and it'll plant seeds in their minds that mum isn't as innocent as she's acting.

Let her reapply to court. If she does you can then formulate your responses to her potential allegations and come up with an action plan.
 
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